Tattoo with meaning.

[shifted]

Alrighty, so I am looking to get a tattoo done, and I have been watching a lot of Miami Ink because I like tattoos with meaning behind them and it is interesting to get ideas.

At the moment, I am thinking of a phoenix with a tribal pattern around it so symbolise a type of rebirth. This to be on my left upper arm and onto the shoulderr and front chest area.

I also want the classic Yin & Yang symbol on my back.

Anyone got any tats themselves with meaning behind them?

The one thing holding me back is thinking that I will hate it after, and the fact I hate needles. lol

As I cannot find all the episodes of Miami Ink, I have found a complete set for sale so I plan on buying that to learn more about the meaning behind some of them.

Does anyone have any e-books as well on Tattoos and their meaning and symbology that they are able to share? :)

[goitalone]

Are you a jockbro?
If yes, then these tattoos are perfect for you!
siqq ink brah
This is some real unoriginal bullshit. I can pick out tons of fauxhawk douches wearing edhardy sporting these tattoos man. I'd highly suggest rethinking that.
But really, it's you that's gonna have to live with the tattoo. Don't mean to be a belligerent dick, just trying to be real. I have a huge bias against any sort of tribal ink or chinese symbol tattoo. Lame as fuck in my opinion.
If you think you might hate it later on, you probably shouldn't get it or you'll end up looking like a tool.
But like I said, there are tons of people with shit like this and they seem to like it haha.
I'll try and post some of my tattoos.

[stereoblind]

damn.
reading all that makes me feel retarded.
I have "BLINK" tattooed on my lip
and im getting the blink-182 and alkaline trio logos on each wrist in a few days.
I feel so unoriginal <3

[Cacteur]

.... with a tribal pattern around it so symbolise a type of rebirth. This to be on my left upper arm and onto the shoulderr and front chest area. ....

Any tattoo, (or tatau) with an unfolding fern frond pattern in it symbolises the unending cycle of rebirth, like new growth constantly appearing on an old vine.

There are hundreds of possibilities, here are a few I just grabbed from the net...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_l_brenm4.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_l_dsc00829.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_l_dsc00898.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_l_dsc02148_medium.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_l_dsc02159_medium.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_l_gallerydec06_004.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_l_jtw59.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_m_dsc01916_medium.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_m_rapanui-139.jpg

You can also pick up some ideas from the Ta moko, (Facial Tattoo) thread I bunged up ages ago..

http://albumwash.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11931&highlight=Maori

The cool thing is, I bet you can find a tattoo artist in Perth with experience of Maori tatau, if not a genuine Maori artist. :afro:



Are you a jockbro?
If yes, then these tattoos are perfect for you!
siqq ink brah
This is some real unoriginal bullshit. I can pick out tons of fauxhawk douches wearing edhardy sporting these tattoos man. I'd highly suggest rethinking that.
But really, it's you that's gonna have to live with the tattoo. Don't mean to be a belligerent dick, just trying to be real. I have a huge bias against any sort of tribal ink or chinese symbol tattoo. Lame as fuck in my opinion.
If you think you might hate it later on, you probably shouldn't get it or you'll end up looking like a tool.
But like I said, there are tons of people with shit like this and they seem to like it haha.
I'll try and post some of my tattoos.

Well I just saw your pop tats dude, and lemme tell ya... you are gonna be real pissed when you grow up.... :lmao:

[goitalone]

Haha. Just 'cause I don't like your ideas doesn't mean anything. If one person telling you that they don't like it makes you second guess yourself, you probably shouldn't go ahead with it.
But if I tell you I don't like it and you really don't give a fuck then yeah, go for it.

[Cacteur]

Haha. Just 'cause I don't like your ideas doesn't mean anything. If one person telling you that they don't like it makes you second guess yourself, you probably shouldn't go ahead with it.....

You way over estimate yourself mate. Have you noticed anyone second guessing themselves yet??? Do you often talk to yourself in the dark and imagine people listening to you??? There's a name for that bro. Your therapist will explain it to you. :trustme:


.....But if I tell you I don't like it and you really don't give a fuck then yeah, go for it.

Shifted posted a thread asking about tatoos and their meanings. You answer with a wee tanty about your attitude to traditional tats, something you obviously know piss all about, in the mistaken belief that anyone gives a fuck what you think. You seem to think we need your permission. Your last sentence here goes without saying mate. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/yawn.gif

I only responded to you to be polite really goitalone. You are obviously very young and immature, and have a big thing about brightly coloured Disneyland tatoo's. This will wear off eventually and you will have to live with the consequences of an impulsive youth. Your choice bro. We've all been there and I reckon most of us feel sorry for ya. Have a nice life young fellah. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/moon1.gif

[stereoblind]

I only responded to you to be polite really goitalone. You are obviously very young and immature, and have a big thing about brightly coloured Disneyland tatoo's. This will wear off eventually and you will have to live with the consequences of an impulsive youth. Your choice bro. We've all been there and I reckon most of us feel sorry for ya. Have a nice life young fellah. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/moon1.gif

Damn Cacteur.
I hope you're not hatin on me cuz im young.
You know i <3 you.

[Cacteur]

Damn Cacteur.
I hope you're not hatin on me cuz im young.
You know i <3 you.

Naah you're cool wi me bro. You got a pretty arse.. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/4750807ransrans.gif

[stereoblind]

Naah you're cool wi me bro. You got a pretty arse.. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/4750807ransrans.gif

Thanks, I like yours too.
It's fluffy, yet hard when it wants to be.
Makes me smile :)

:naughty:

[Rudolf]

Your all gay with your tats. I was going to get my blood group on my left arm, but I figured if it was blown off, what's the point. :D

@ Cacteur, Don't you think having "copyright" tattooed on the guy's body is an over kill by the tattooist :lol:

[Cacteur]

@ Cacteur, Don't you think having "copyright" tattooed on the guy's body is an over kill by the tattooist :lol:

Totally mate. :lol: Someone has to put a stop to all this capitalist bullshit taking over the planet. Where's that fucking Stalin when you need him. :devil2:

[Kenshi]

dont do it steroblind, dont get an artist or group tattooed on you. or seriously think about it. im not sure, but IMO i would never get something specific like that tattooed on me such as a name, a group, a game, or anything like that. i saw some guy with a god of war tattoo and i thought what a fool. im not a fan of generic tats either, such as tribal tats and Chinese symbols. at shifted i think you should just think about it, you shouldnt need to look in any books or even ask anyone. just think about your self, and what you would want on you body. what you feel is important enough to you to mark yourself with it and keep it there for the rest of your life.

[stereoblind]

dont do it steroblind, dont get an artist or group tattooed on you. or seriously think about it. im not sure, but IMO i would never get something specific like that tattooed on me such as a name, a group, a game, or anything like that. i saw some guy with a god of war tattoo and i thought what a fool. im not a fan of generic tats either, such as tribal tats and Chinese symbols. at shifted i think you should just think about it, you shouldnt need to look in any books or even ask anyone. just think about your self, and what you would want on you body. what you feel is important enough to you to mark yourself with it and keep it there for the rest of your life.

I've been wanting this since I was a little kid.
I already have "BLINK" on the inside of my lip.
lol

[Cacteur]

I've never been a big fan of tats. I was always worried I would live to regret what ever design I chose. I did get a home made tat when I was about 14. I was right into the battle of Britain at the time, and had a picture of a Spitfire blowing a Messerschmitt Bf 109 outta the sky on my left arm. Fortunately, it didn't last more than about six months. :^_^:

But now that I'm older, I have a lot more "mana", prestige and seniority amongst my tribes peoples, I would love to get the full facial ta moko of our tribes. I could handle that no trouble now, but because of my lung transplant, the Doctors wont let me do it. Life sends you lots of funny little twists and turns eh? ;)

Im not actually being all that radical either. Full moko are becoming more and more common amongst modern Maori.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/moko.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/TaurewaVictorBiddle.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/200133697-002.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/167512.jpg

:thumbsup:

[stereoblind]

Damn Cacteur those are some badass motherfuckers.
I wonder how i'd look in on stage pictures with one of those >.<

[shifted]

Are you a jockbro?
If yes, then these tattoos are perfect for you!
siqq ink brah
This is some real unoriginal bullshit. I can pick out tons of fauxhawk douches wearing edhardy sporting these tattoos man. I'd highly suggest rethinking that.
But really, it's you that's gonna have to live with the tattoo. Don't mean to be a belligerent dick, just trying to be real. I have a huge bias against any sort of tribal ink or chinese symbol tattoo. Lame as fuck in my opinion.
If you think you might hate it later on, you probably shouldn't get it or you'll end up looking like a tool.
But like I said, there are tons of people with shit like this and they seem to like it haha.
I'll try and post some of my tattoos.

Alrighty mate, let me put something straight to you...

I am not a jock.

Unoriginal? You give me something that IS original. Everything in this world has been done before, the only originality is in different things being mixed together, and even then it is questionable.

My understanding of what a tattoo is, irrespective of what it is or what someone else thinks about it, is something that means something to you. If you love it, do it.

I don't care if you slapped the word Jackass on your forehead (though it would be questionable). It is not something I would do, I prefer to have something with meaning to me, in a place where it can represent what it means to me.

You might think these "Tribal" & "Chinese symbols" are over done, but what isn't? As long as it is not overdone on your skin, it means something to you, and it is significant to you, then who gives a shit?

I asked for an honest opinion on what people have on their skin, their meanings behind why they got it. Not a blatant and disrespectful view on what I think I want. Everyone has their reasons...

The reason I chose the symbols:

Phoenix:
A Phoenix, from my understanding, is a sign of a rebirth, a new start, "out with the old, in with the new" etc. Other meanings include resurrection, life over death, immortality etc. etc.

The reason behind my choice: I got arrested in 2007 at 16, an experience that changed my life and stopped me in my tracks of my disruptive path. I would not change the experience at all if I had to relive it, I ruined my TEE and practically had nothing left, had to start a fresh, relationships with everyone were taught and I hurt my parents in ways I could not imagine. Where I am now is places I could not dream of, I love life, I love everything in it, and I, in a sense, had a "rebirth."

Yin Yang Symbol:
To me, this symbolises equality in the sense that in the universe everything exists in duality. A balance in life, one cannot exist without the other. The placing of the Tiger and Dragon (if that is the preferred option, as in my case) is very important as well. However, as they will not be placed with one above the other it will symbolise that balance.

I did a lot of personal development work after my arrest and it helped me get through a point in my life where I felt lost. It taught me that everything exists in duality, you cannot have one thing without the exact opposite occurring as well. No pleasure without pain, no happy without sad etc.

Now, I have also recently been looking at Koi fish as well to be worked into a whole back piece. But I won't get into that now.

The reason I am worried I may hate it after? It is permanent, I can't get rid of it, yes it would mean something to me, but what if I do not like it later? I also hate needles so that is no help. I want the tattoo, but I don't if you get what I mean.

So I am thinking I will have a shop draw something up and then have it placed temporarily so I can see what it looks like and etc. for a couple days.

PS. Tribal designs: Each shape, form, piece of any design can symbolise various aspects and emotions. Pride, respect, loyalty etc. Tribal designs may seem over-rated to those that no nothing about them, but when you look into what each shape means you will see a bigger picture.

My mrs' dad himself has a Tribal design he drew up by himself over 5 years before he had it inked onto his skin - all of which based on what he went through, each symbol meaning something else, and let me tell you, he has not had an easy life. I have been thinking about having a tattoo since year 10, it is not an easy process, but a long one to achieve what I want. 4 years and counting and I am still thinking about it all, just trying to come up with something that means something to me.

Hope this clears stuff up for you.

[Rudolf]

One of these will show the old man and girl that you love them :)

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7711/heartandlovetattoomomda.jpg

[xsocalx]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/koretake/phoca_thumb_l_jtw59.jpg

:lmao: At first i though this was Cacteur, But the female version.. Wait is this even a female? :lol: I can't figure it out

[Rudolf]

It's Cacteur in drag :lmao:

[Rudolf]

Totally mate. :lol: Someone has to put a stop to all this capitalist bullshit taking over the planet. Where's that fucking Stalin when you need him. :devil2:

Stalin :lmao:

I was just reading an article about Stalin where they are trying to rewrite the history books.

Their view is that he was really a good guy and never hurt anyone, (read killed, maim, mutilate or disappeared for political or idealogical reasons) ;)

[kenz]

shifted, i would wait if i was you, when iwas 17-18 i wanted to get japanese writing of my mums name on my arm, and i didnt......i am soooooo glad i didnt cos it would of looked tacky and cheap as fuck....and i would of regretted it, even though i would of lied and pretended i didnt regret it like everyone with tats does

everyone i know whos is over the age of 40 who has tattoos regret them....i know someone who got a bulldog when he was a teen LOL a bulldog

even though goitalone was very blunt in the manner he said it, i actually agree with pretty much everything he said

edit: i would say, wait untill your 21

[Rudolf]

It does not matter what tattoo you get now, because later you will think to yourself, fuck, why did I do that.

Yours tastes change, as does your views, feelings and what you may think is real and forever now, will not be in a few years time.

With respect to cultures that have facial tattoos as part of their their cultural heritage, most societies do not, it can also lead to problems with getting certain employment.

Think of the old tattoo adage,

Have a beautiful butterfly tattooed upon your body and watch it morph into a moth as you grown older. :)

[Cacteur]

....:lmao: At first i though this was Cacteur, But the female version.. Wait is this even a female? :lol: I can't figure it out

:lol: She is a little ripe I guess, but, believe it or not, that is how Maori women look sexy. :naughty1: It's called a "pukana."

http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/467943617_2b020ac0af.jpg

The story is, Men are much more powerful than women, but are of the "sky", which makes them flighty, quick to anger, and prone to misjudging situations, and much of men's power resides in his erect penis.

Women on the other hand, are of the "earth" (this kind of reflects the yin and yang in Asian), and though physically weaker than men, are more stable than men, more practical and pragmatic and have an ability to handle pain better than men. Her power resides in her vagina, through which, every living human first sees the light of day.

It is also using the vagina that women seduce men, and rob them of their power, by draining the life force from his erect penis and leaving him shrivelled and wasted afterwards. So women, though attractive and seductive are dangerous, and to be feared, and ironically, the more fearful they are, the more we Maori men desire them.

It is then no surprise then, that although "pillage" was a popular pastime during the wars of the old people, "rape" was definitely off the menu.

Lastly, female moko, around the lips, has always been popular here in NZ, and never disappeared the way the full facial male moko did.

Thus ends your anthropology lesson for the day dude. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/peace.gif

Stalin :lmao:

I was just reading an article about Stalin where they are trying to rewrite the history books.

Their view is that he was really a good guy and never hurt anyone, (read killed, maim, mutilate or disappeared for political or idealogical reasons) ;)

My Dad is still a hard core Stalinist. He's in his late 70's now, but back in the day he was a knuckle headed Unionist and a founder of the New Zealand Socialist Unity Party. His favourite quote/saying, (I think it's his own..) is that... the world is not fair, and people are greedy by nature. The only way to get people to share the wealth is to point a gun at their heads. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/3466188ba8793a.gif... You fucking tell 'em Pops... BTW. The current world economic crisis has him convinced socialism is making a comeback again, he hasn't put his gin bottle down since the news broke. :afro:



......With respect to cultures that have facial tattoos as part of their their cultural heritage, most societies do not, it can also lead to problems with getting certain employment......

In New Zealand it is illegal to discriminate against someone with a full facial moko in employment, business, or any other part of normal modern life. It can get a bit confusing though, because some gangs use facial moko, (ie, a normal moko design with Mighty Mongrel Mob scrawled across the forehead,), and businesses, especially pubs have have been granted the right to refuse service to people wearing gang moko. You do still get some Pakeha, (white New Zealanders) animosity, "scribble head" being a popular term of abuse, but most kiwis wouldn't bat an eyelid. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/yawn.gif

To me too, it is not something you would do as a young person. I'm saying I would be prepared to do it now, because I am now regarded as a senior and respected member of both my main tribes, and if it wasn't for the immunosuppressants, I probably would. If I did it, they would be tribal designs from my tribes, and would depict symbols of my ancestors and my history, so, regardless of anyone's attitude to it I would find it easy to stand tall and be proud of it. http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/raimann.gif

If I was moving to Australia, I wouldn't even consider it. I have always regarded Aussie's attitude to non white cultures as extremely backward. (Considering they still air coon humour in the manner of singers in black and white minstrel make up kinda reinforces that view.) http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/Cacteur/Smilies/4750807ransrans.gif

[stereoblind]

It is also using the vagina that women seduce men, and rob them of their power, by draining the life force from his erect penis and leaving him shrivelled and wasted afterwards. So women, though attractive and seductive are dangerous, and to be feared, and ironically, the more fearful they are, the more we Maori men desire them.

:lmao::lmao:

[shifted]

@mega,

This is not something I will be getting done now, probably not in the next 5 years, however, I am looking for ideas and knowledge to be able to find the symbols I want to have placed onto my skin.

I wouldn't do it at 21 either... probably when I am 30 or maybe even older, but the fact is I want to have one piece that takes up a good area across my shoulders then bits and pieces all over my body. I started off with the idea of the Polish crest on my right shoulder blade and have kinda morphed out of it a little to think of something with more meaning to me, at the end of the day I can have heaps of objects put together and it could work and tell a bit of a story. ;)

In time, at the moment I just wanted to see what people have done for their own and the meaning behind it. :)

[Rudolf]

I forgot that, Hey Hey its Saturday, is our official cultural department of good taste, especially Red Faces. :lmao:

Some people need to lighten up :lol:

[Cacteur]

.......Some people need to lighten up :lol:

.. 'aint that the truth. ;) Don't be so defensive Rudi. Oz is the only place on the planet people would find that funny. You're a pack of bloody Neanderthals bro... get used to it. :respect:

[Rudolf]

:lmao:

Don't forget most of us came from convict stock and those that immigrated were really kicked out of their home lands. :lmao:

[Cacteur]

Not to forget the 150,000 odd kiwis on the run from child support orders, and various other civil and criminal issues in NZ. :D

It is hardcase really. You never quite escape your history. You are the irreverent convicts, cynical and worldly wise, and we are the middle class Anglican ladder climbing shopkeepers and wannabe big time farmers, full of angst and identity issues, and don't it bloody show. :invis:

[Rudolf]

and then you get some yank wanker making an issue over a very funny skit. :)

he seemed to duck for cover and threaten to sue anyone who suggested that his skit of a few years earlier, was anything but a Church approved skit. Yeah, and pigs can fly,

Singers are best left to singing instead of trying to hold court on moral issues.

[Cacteur]

You wouldn't get away with that skit over here either mate. I doubt any channel would even run it.

We have a comedy sports show here called Pulp Sport. The last time the Windies Cricket Team toured two of the (white) guys dressed up as rastas complete with face blackening and appeared as Windies supporters. Not sure where the are now, (maybe Aus?) but the shit hit the fan big time, and station managers were apologising in public and they were never seen again.

We are pretty anal about shit like that. A few years ago when the Auckland Rugby team was touring South Africa, a high tackle by an Aucklander of Samoan descent was called by the South African commentator a "coconut tackle". In New Zealand, coconut is a derogatory term for islanders, and man did we whine about it. The commentators explained that they use the term to refer to someones head, perfectly logical explanation, but us self righteous kiwi's couldn't let go of the fact they were Afrikaner, and as such extremely suspect. :^_^:

It takes all sorts mate...

[Rudolf]

You guys are soft, no wonder you all migrate over to good old US of Australia.

[shifted]

LOL - "Why are people so unkind"

When I heard him say that again in a statement when the shit hit the fan with this skit, it made my day.

[Cacteur]

You guys are soft, no wonder you all migrate over to good old US of Australia.

Soft? Oh...... rrrrright. So you think taking the piss outta blacks makes you hard?? :o Now... that would explain a lot I guess..:D

Jesus you jokers.. :dry: I'll always love my Strayin cuzzies, but fuck you can be a pack o redneck munt heads at times. Those Aboriginals have been far too soft on yez, so we have sending a few of the bros over to sort y'all out.:evillaugh:

[Rudolf]

Hang about, that is old news, we need to move on to our latest bad taste event.


In Victoria, we have just had midget racing. :eek:

Come on man, keep up. We don't have time to dwell on old crap. We are far too busy offending everyone, everything and anything else that passes our way. :)

What is not widely known is guess who was calling the race. :lmao:

Don't judge us on what we do, judge us on what , oh, wait, Don't judge us on our sense of, No wait, that's not right either, arh fuck it. We are who we are. :lol:

If you think your hard done by, I sent my new KKK sheet out for dry cleaning, and they sent it back pink :^_^: :gaypro:

You don't need to look to hard to find fault with us, we just cannot help ourselves :lol: but mind you, when the shit hits the fan, we will as in the past, stand side by side with our friends, regardless of race, colour or creed. :)

[Cacteur]

:lol: Yeah, the midget thing is all over our news, punctuated with the appropriate smirks and eyeball rolls. :rolleyes: *bloody Aussies* Remember the midget tossing that was popular in Aus and kiwi pubs in the 80's? That started in Queensland didn't it?

Have I ever told you about my mate Vossy? Born and bred in Rosebury in Tas., a one c o m p a n y mining town. When I first met him, we were at each others throats right from the get go, fucking racist dickhead he was. Bloody funny, but low as man. Anyway, for the first few weeks we just hurled clever racist epitaphs at each other, and they were bloody hilarious mate. We'd have the workshop in fits. :D

Then one afternoon in the pub, this pommy bloke called me a monkey. Old Vossy comes flying across the bar and gives this joker a flying drop kick, right in the chest, drops him flat. He leans over this bloke and yells at him, "So you noticed he's a blackfellah, so you're a clever c@nt. Now fuck off, he's our blackfellah." I was christened 'Midnight' (or Middy) that night, and become a full member of the Rosebury Pub local wankers club.:)

That was the beginning of a long, sometimes rocky, but all the better for it,.. friendship between us. I've had him crying on my shoulder telling me how worried he was some Chinese immigrant was going to take away his job, ( leaning on a shovel!!), and I tried to make him cry over stories about what it feels like to be abused on the basis of something you are immensely proud of.

We are at the moment, swapping xrated emails about the good and the bad of Rudd and Obama. He reckons Obama is a voodoo doll and Michelle is in charge. He's a fucking good bastard, thick as, but OK.... rly.. :thumbsup:

Humour does rate highly for me, and I'm not into over sensitivity at all. That's the fine line where humour lives. There is humour that offends me though, and I've often pondered at the difference. It is a very fine line, I dunno. If it's a clever original observation of racial, (or national or religious, or gender,) mannerisms, it's funny, but.... if it's too low, like too mean, and you've heard the same joke, or the same line, over, and over, and over, (like the B&W minstrels).. it's fucking offensive, not funny, wrong, wrong, wrong, and I feel an overwhelming desire to man up and say so, rather than be polite so as not to rock the boat.

So...... don't gimme this soft shit Rudi.:spank:

[Rudolf]

I think we can best summarized by a book written by John O'Grady, called, They're a Weird Mob.