What is HATE?

[Slashe50]

Is it an excuse to make one feel important? Is it because of an incitement from what someone has said? Is it because one is prejudiced by one's upbringing? Or (especially on the internet) just because they are bored?

[Kenshi]

its an extreme dislike of something or someone

[Rudolf]

I hate peas, but I like beans, they are both green, go figure :)

[Cacteur]

Jesus you jokers want to know every bloody thing. :rockthrow:

IMHO, unless it's applied to vegetables or pop music, it's an emotion guaranteed to turn you into a right dick head. :D

[shifted]

I don't believe there is hate, cos in every action there is some form of love. You can hate something all you want, for whatever reason you perceive it affected you, but at the exact same time, whatever happened was allowing the exact opposite to happen somewhere else in your life.

Hate is just a strong descriptive word.

[Rudolf]

So you could actually love to hate :)

[shifted]

Well, in a sense I suppose. :p

[Slashe50]

Speaking of hate, look at this conversation I had on Youtube with some 8 year old girl. This was on a Jonas Brothers spoof video.


NickJroxMyJBworld
jb rox anyone who thinks that theyre stupid or gay are wrong u dont even give them a chance. get a flippn life. btw, HATERS ARE JUST JEALOUS!!

Slashe50
What, jealous that we don't suck as much as they do? Believe me, I've attempted to listen to their music, but I literally come out retching after the first thirty seconds.

And "get a flippn life"? This is YouTube, the home of no-life-havers. I doubt you have much of a life "NickJroxMyJBworld".

NickJroxMyJBworld
just yesterday i was txtn some guy and he called me and sed that he loved the song but he ddnt no who it was from and i sed jb and he sed, oh i thot they only had bad songs but i guess not thx. and i sed, glad u found a song that u like and he sed, its all thanks 2u. U ARE JEALOUS AND U JUST HAVENT GIVEN THEM A CHANCE.

DarkERIC94
what the fuck? spell said right and then you can post life stories that nobody gives a shit about

OurenV2
jealous of what?

NickJroxMyJBworld
haters only hate things they cant have & ppl they cant be. (in this case it would be ppl they cant be)
THAT IS JEALOUSY!

meatball957
Yes your right. We are jelous because these kids are gay. Clearly we all want to be fags.

Slashe50
You know, I extremely hate people who repeat the same things over and over again. I've already established that I'm not jealous and that I've already given them a chance. It also helps that I listen to metal, so there really wouldn't be any chance I'd like them anyway.

And now you're probably going to start hating on metal.

Slashe50
Taken straight from your profile, NickJroxMyJBworld,

*ahem*
I HATE CAMILLA! IM NOT JEALOUS OF HER! SHE MADE JOE IGNORE HIS FANS! THEN THEY LAUGHED!
THATS JUST DISRESPECT! ALL THE FANS WANTED WAS A FRIKKIN PICTURE WITH HIM AND HIS BROS! SHE NEEDS TO DIE IN A HOLE! NO MORE JAMILLA! I WANT JAYLOR BACK! cuz he said Forever&Always! IF U HATE CAMILLA, ADD ME AS A FRIEND, THEN I'LL ADD U TO THE "HATES CAMILLA" LIST. IF I DONT
ADD U2THE LIST BUT ACCEPT UR FRIEND INVITE&WANNA BE ON THE LIST, SEND ME A MESSAGE AND I'LL ADD U AS SOON AS I READ UR MESSAGE!

[xeno6919]

lol, I have gotten to the point that whenever I watch a video on Youtube that I dont even scroll down to read the comments because I automatically feel retarded reading some of the things that people say on there.

[Slashe50]

It's another OCD thing for me.

[shifted]

Youtube is full of obsolete, incompetent and disrespectful arseholes. By that, I mean in terms of those that leave comments.

Edit: That is also a generalisation. Not in anyway a view on the minority of those on there that actually have a brain and use it to a decent capacity.

[mrstrange]

Youtube is full of obsolete, incompetent and disrespectful arseholes. By that, I mean in terms of those that leave comments.

Edit: That is also a generalisation. Not in anyway a view on the minority of those on there that actually have a brain and use it to a decent capacity.

Sounds like a forum I frequently visit. :lol:

[Rudolf]

Youtube is full of obsolete, incompetent and disrespectful arseholes.

Damn, I do some of my best work there :lmao:

[greddie]

So you could actually love to hate :)

There are some people I LOVE to hate.

I am not normally a hateful person, i am very chilled out and relaxd and that prob has something to do with my sense of green.:afro:
But sometimes i meet people who i hate with all my soul for no real reason, everything they do f'ks me off no end and they can rectify the situation, obviously cos in their eyes they done nout wrong. lol.

Also, Hate stems from the deep subconscious. I often dream and in that dream someone i know well will do something to anger me or upset me, I'll wake up with a grudge against them. This one guy, i hated him for ages and I couldn't remember why, when i did remember it was a dream i just went along with my inner being, subconscious telling me the guy was a dick and that pretty much ended our friendship.

.....sorry i gone a bit off point. Hate is real. but its just a word we have applied to an emotion/feeling.:naughty1:

[Cacteur]

I got into a scrap on Youtube once with a woman who thought M.I.A. should be banned from the US because her father was a Tamil Tiger, hence a supporter of Osama. I tried to explain the difference between Muslims and Hindus, and how many thousands of years they had been at war with each other. It didn't work. :afro: That's the main thing hate does to you. Makes you really thick, I mean really, like a ten stack of bricks!! :rockthrow:

[Slashe50]

Sometimes I'll just get really bored and start quoting "As I Am" by Dream Theater.

"To those who understand, I extend my hand
To the doubtful I demand, take me as I am"

[southpaw]

hate doesnt exist. its temporary you know. its an impulse that is part of tv mind control. but you see in an angry state people are highly suggestible. like if someone got mad about something u know lets say at a party or something and uh somone spilled a drink.... untt.. well then after the guy reacted wit getting pissed or somthing. somone would just correct that person say make them react without anger with hypnotic suggestion pushing him to follow the other persons indications towards reacting with ideas that are creative, creative ideas uh lets say to clean up the spill that was made.... see ? any1 see my point? :) acid rulez

[Kenshi]

hate doesnt exist. its temporary you know. its an impulse that is part of tv mind control. but you see in an angry state people are highly suggestible. like if someone got mad about something u know lets say at a party or something and uh somone spilled a drink.... untt.. well then after the guy reacted wit getting pissed or somthing. somone would just correct that person say make them react without anger with hypnotic suggestion pushing him to follow the other persons indications towards reacting with ideas that are creative, creative ideas uh lets say to clean up the spill that was made.... see ? any1 see my point? :) acid rulez

hate does exist, tv did not create the word hate. hate has nothing to do with tv or mind control. it is an extreme dislike of something. and someone isnt going to HATE someone who spills something on them if so it will end quickly. there doesn't have to be anything "spiritual" behind the word just because it is an emotion. its like sayin the word "great" doesn't exist because the word "good" does exist. they mean the same thing but great is more of an extreme. sometimes dislike doesn't cover how much you don't like something and then the word hate is used, just like when you love something, you like it so much that like is not a strong enough word. in the dictionary it says hate is "strong dislike". i dislike country music, but i HATE pop-rap

[Cacteur]

One thing that makes humans more complicated than other known sentient beings is our ability to conceptualise things.

Hate, as an emotion affects behaviour and as so is quite real. I think of it as a mental blockage, some kind of brain disfunction where the ego takes off and makes you into a dickhead. It happens when you forget who you are.

I believe in the man in the mirror. If you have a problem, go and talk to him. You cannot lie to him, he sees right through you and will always care about you and sort you out. He'll keep your secrets, and he'll often leave you laughing at yourself. Fucking good bloke the man in the mirror.... :D

[c4m]

lol, I have gotten to the point that whenever I watch a video on Youtube that I dont even scroll down to read the comments because I automatically feel retarded reading some of the things that people say on there.

Same.

It just makes me
:confused:

[Kenshi]

yeah i love the man in the mirror, but if you hate something other than a person, it doesnt turn you into a dick head. and it wouldn't have to do with ego sayin for example if someone hates spaghetti. i dont think it takes a brain disfunction in order to dislike something greatly, it does not take a brain disfunction in order to LIKE something greatly, i dont think the two are very different.

yeah i love to debate, so countering statements is what i do.

[Cacteur]

Hate things rather than people? OK, I see what you are getting at Kenshi, but to me "hate" is far to intense a word to use in connection with, say, spaghetti. If you "hate" items of food, rather than dislike them, you really do have a serious problem.

The point about "hate" in comparison to "love" is that love can be fulfilled. Hate is totally insatiable, and will never be satisfied. It is essentially a wasted emotion, (for dick heads). :afro:

[Kenshi]

hate is just a great dislike. you can dislike things in different degrees. for example if you dislike pie but really really dislike spinach and cant stand it, then you hate spinach. i never read any description of hate that says it is a strong word or to intense of a word to be used in certain ways.

[B-Mello]

hmmm from looking at what you guys have said, i kind of have mixed feelings on the word. however, i think i lead more towards cacteur reasoning though because even though I feel its just as possible to hate an object compared to a person, i think it takes a lot more personal corruption to do so. Like for instance, when it comes to hating people, you usually do so because they have done something to you, directly or indirectly, that causes you to disagree with that person past a point of reason until the point where you dont dislike someone because of logic, but instead you "hate" them due to your personal emotions.

Oh, and Hi everyone ^_^ while I was preparing to introduce myself a post from here caught my eye. lol

[shifted]

Hate is just a description of a different type of love. Everything in this world is love, everything that happens, happens for a reason.

You can either try to find the good stuff, or the bad stuff only of whatever happens, but when you see both you are grateful for it happening. Regardless of what it is. You evolve as a person by doing so.

You can think you "hate" something, but you only feel that because you feel hurt. Later, you get over it and etc, fair enough the relationships may not be the same, but what you gained/lost doesn't change. If your going to get caught up in an emotional state over whatever happened, the cycles repeat constantly, so you come across the same relationships over and over until you stop being over-emotionally controlled by them, then its different.

One thing to note though, never drop your values, for anyone. If you value something enough (money, travelling, sport etc.) then keep doing what keeps those values, never drop them for anyone, so if you have a girlfriend, you still gotta keep your values, otherwise it all falls to shit anyway. :)

[Cacteur]

Hate just another kind of love shifted? :rockthrow: Well, love is an emotion, and hate is another emotion, but another kind of love? I'm getting deja vu here from the "what is love" so I might do the same thing I did then.

hate v.t. have strong dislike of, or strong aversion to; dislike greatly.

Oxford Concise.

I thought I'd add an American perspective, just in case there is a difference. (There quite often is.)

hate v.t to have strong dislike or ill will for; despise.

Websters American.

Hmmm. So much for that plan. That tells us fuck all eh? I think my interpretation is more American. When I hear "hate" I think "despise", like an active negativity, which is why I would see it as a little odd for someone to actually "hate" certain foods.

Either way, I can't see it as another type of love. As I said earlier, love can be satisfied, hate cannot, which is why hate is to be avoided. Dislike? Fine. Hate? Oh well, it's your funeral..:D

I guess my real point of difference with you guys is the way I see "hate" as the absolute extreme.

[Edit] Oh... and welcome to the Wash B-Mello. :wave:

[shifted]

I don't see hate as an emotion, you will feel hurt, you will feel pissed off, but you won't feel hate, you will though, describe your feelings as hate.

In this existance there has only ever been, and only ever will be love, from day one when a baby is brought into this existance, til the day you die.

Only thing you have to worry about, is making sure you do as much as you can, while you can, and love yourself, regardless of what happens, because everything happens for a reason.

There is no opposite to love, there is a desire to feel hatred (brought on by other feelings) but there is still love in every aspect of your life.

Just cos someone hurt you, doesn't mean they don't love you, maybe that was their way of expressing their love to you, to make you realise there are better and bigger things out there for you.

At the moment I am pretty crook (norovirus - FUCKEN WANKER of a virus) but I will try find some texts to reference, and etc. later.

My opinion on this subject is based on 3 years of Personal Development work. I am not saying my opinion is more valid than anyone elses, or vice versa though, just illustrating my point. :)

[B-Mello]

Actually, Shifted, I believe that hate is just as much of an emotion as love is. You say
that hate is something we dont actually feel but i beg to differ. I would go as far as to say that I agree with you that hate cannot be satisfied, but I'm sure that it can indeed be felt.

Mankind has bared witness to many accounts of hate such as genocide and even deaths on smaller scales. These are primary accounts of people hurting one another but I am almost positively sure that they weren't merely at a loss of a way to "express" their love in a more positive way.

I don't think people feel hate as much as they may say they do, but nonetheless, it is quite possible to hate someone else. At least that's my 2 cents for that.

[rasaqboy]

sounded like a dictionary definition

[shifted]

Actually, Shifted, I believe that hate is just as much of an emotion as love is. You say
that hate is something we dont actually feel but i beg to differ. I would go as far as to say that I agree with you that hate cannot be satisfied, but I'm sure that it can indeed be felt.

Mankind has bared witness to many accounts of hate such as genocide and even deaths on smaller scales. These are primary accounts of people hurting one another but I am almost positively sure that they weren't merely at a loss of a way to "express" their love in a more positive way.

I don't think people feel hate as much as they may say they do, but nonetheless, it is quite possible to hate someone else. At least that's my 2 cents for that.

That is where my view differs. Hate can be expressed as the "feeling" for a mixture of emotions. Having had family die and survive the holocaust and etc. I can say I feel anger and frustration, but not hate, whereas people directly involved in it, witnessing their family die would be having a bigger mixture of emotions and feelings at the same time: anger, frustration, sadness, grief etc which could be described as "hate."

I agree with Lidia though that hate is a harsh word for what it is and is used too freely when disliking something is the more correct term.

[Cacteur]

That is where my view differs. Hate can be expressed as the "feeling" for a mixture of emotions. Having had family die and survive the holocaust and etc. I can say I feel anger and frustration, but not hate, whereas people directly involved in it, witnessing their family die would be having a bigger mixture of emotions and feelings at the same time: anger, frustration, sadness, grief etc which could be described as "hate."

I agree with Lidia though that hate is a harsh word for what it is and is used too freely when disliking something is the more correct term.

Damn it man... I've got it, you're a bloody psycopath!! :eek:

Hate is NOT frustration, anger, sadness or grief. It is an extreme dislike, the adjective "extreme" suggesting emotion.

[Kenshi]

thats what im sayin

[greddie]

baby dont ...hate... me, no more